Grantland Dips Your Phillies Boner in Cold Water

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Rany Jazayerli, a Royals blogger, wrote an article for Grantland which details the Phillies' impending collapse, set to begin in 2012. He actually makes some good points, other than his flawed logic that says: the Phillies are so good because of their pitching but their lineup is aging and not that good now even though they are sixth best in the NL and part of the best team in baseball so they're going to stink in a few years. Phew. Good read, though.

27 Comments

  1. He only wishes the Phillies collapsed, Kansas City gets shitty revenue so he wouldn’t know about maintaining consistency financially..#hatersgonhate.

  2. Royals blog?? So I’m guessing about 5 people read it

  3. Regardless of what the final result ends up being, this season’s team will probably end up being considered the best of the current era of Phillies baseball (and probably ever), much like the 1976-77 teams are considered the best of the franchise’s first Golden Age even though only the 1980 squad reached the promised land
    Speaking on those terms, there isn’t anywhere to go but down. The Phillies should still be a championship-caliber team in 2012 and 2013. There’s obviously a lot that can happen in the meantime, but at the very least they seem to be in a position to contend for the next few years after that. This Golden Age will have to come to an end at some point, but I highly doubt it will all just suddenly come crashing down

  4. I actually read this article earlier today, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt until this line:
    “Among the Phillies’ starters, only Shane Victorino isn’t in decline”
    So we’re calling Ryan Howard “in decline” now? What about Chooch? What about HUNTER FUCKING PENCE? That’s almost 40% of the starting lineup that I just named that certainly aren’t in decline. It’s also convenient how he fails to mention guys like Mayberry and Brown when painting his impending doom and gloom picture of the position players.
    Then we get to this gem: “Even at his peak, Howard couldn’t run, wasn’t a great first baseman, and couldn’t hit left-handed pitching.”
    Try to wrap your head around someone saying that Howard never was good at any of those things even in “his prime”, then citing those same reasons for why he’s “declining”.

  5. There’s no way a “collapse”, if there ever will be one, will begin within the next couple or years or so. Sure you got worries about losing J-Roll, Ibanez, and Oswalt plus some others. But you got guys in their prime, the pitchers: Lee, Hamels, and yes even Doc; the hitters: Victorino Howard, and yes even Chase; and you got young guys upcoming to their prime years, the pitchers: Vanimal and MadDog; the hitters: Mayberry (soon to be Octoberberry) and now HP3-LGE (and perhaps Brown).
    Amaro would have to make some sharp moves to keep the team a supreme force as it is now, but I have complete confidence in his magic touch after the moves he made in the last year and a half to assemble the current team. Gillick has taught his prodigy well.

  6. This reminds me, I’ve been dying to email Bruce Newman lately and remind him of how big of a douchebag he is, and how pathetic the Giants are to not even have a chance to justify their title with a consecutive trip to the postseason.
    Who’s in with me?

  7. Wow, this author is among the worst writers alive.

  8. my phillies boner is fully torqued

  9. Ryan Howard was never good at fielding, could never hit left handed pitching, and will always be slow.
    With that said, this author is misinformed. The Phillies turnaround started with home grown talent, and not elite pitching.

  10. By collapse, I guess he means possibly not good enough to win 95+ games. Whatever.
    Good luck with the Royals. They will be good again at some point in my lifetime. They have to be, right?

  11. Agreed that the turnaround began with home-grown talent. But this second Golden Age will end at some point. The most important question is: how long will it be before we’re good again?
    Thankfully, Amaro doesn’t have the small-market mentality that plagued this team in the ’80s and ’90s. Hopefully that translates into more solid moves that mean more seasons in contention than not.
    This winning thing is nice. Let’s keep it going.

  12. “Even at his peak, Howard couldn’t run, wasn’t a great first baseman, and couldn’t hit left-handed pitching.”
    If he reads these kinda things, you know Howard’s going to get up outta his chair and polish his MVP award. :)

  13. LOL
    This article assumes that Ruben Amaro Jr. will make no moves to improve the team going forward. It’d be like saying in 2008 that the Phillies will never be competitive again because of how relatively bad their starting pitching was. The Phillies’ management essentially remade the team on the fly in terms of what its focus is.
    There are some good points in that article, but good teams with the ability to spend that have smart management are able to stay on top. Just look at the Yankees and Red Sox. Unless the Phillies’ lose their savvy, have a series of bad deals, bad luck, or any combination of the aforementioned, we will be just fine moving forward. That’s not a guarantee, but by the same point the Phillies are not doomed for failure as this author suggests.

  14. NickFromGermantown said EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. Thanks for not making me type it out!

  15. george brett's itchy anus

    August 31, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    This guy interviewed for the chance to blog about the Washington Generals but didn’t make the cut.

  16. this guy can suck my asshole lips

  17. It’s hard to make the “age” comparison from year to year like this guy is trying to do; you’ll never be able to make an apples-to-apples comparison as players leave, managers are fired, etc ( didn’t 2002 Diamondbacks lose Schilling?; Giants were never a great team with Bonds, just played in a (still) horrible division; dont remember when Griffey went to the Reds, but I’m sure it was close to the time he’s talking about; Baltimore started to suffer at the hands of the unlimited budget of the Yanks ( who won 4 WS titles in 5 years or something) and Sox; don’t know much about the early 80′s Angels)
    The one point that I sort of agree with is that unless the farm system improves (other than the top 4 or 5 which have seen time in the majors over the last season or two), the Phillies won’t have the options to trade for the infusion of talent needed to sustain this run. However, we can hope there is another team out there who will see The genius of Ed Wade so we can keep our favorite trading partner.

  18. Rany Jazayerli is a fucking chode. That is all.

  19. THIS GUY INSULTS RYAN HOWARD NO NO NO HE’S AN IDIOT HE DOESN’T KNOW ANYTHING RBIS RBIS RBIS

  20. John, stop with the caps lock dickbag

  21. He finished up the article with this
    “So long as Halladay and Lee and Hamels are competing with each other for Cy Young Awards, the Phillies are almost guaranteed to be competitive.”
    Which kinda of takes a steamy dump all over the point of his entire article.

  22. Author also neglected to note the amazing power hitting of Cliff Lee. He can probably just play 1B on his non-pitching days since Ryan Howard is so awful

  23. You have a lot of people in denial commenting Kyle. Howard is most certainly showing “decline” Look at his OPS since he’s come up to the bigs. It’s leaning in the “declining” position. Maybe people don’t understand this, but he’s human, he’s getting older, accept it. Is he still a really good player? Absolutely. Utley is showing it, yes, the God known as Chase, whom I have a man crush on. Polanco? mmmhmmm. Jimmy? yups (although he’s in a contract year and “shocker” we see an uptick in performance this season).
    Do I totally agree with the author? NO. He ignores the young talent on the team, he ignores a pretty decent farm system and Ruben Amaro, who’s pretty much been the best GM in recent history. Look, before you trash me, I’m only saying certain players are showing decline, and a whole slew of Philly fans are in denial, but I don’t think they’re on the road to ruin either.They have potential to pretty much own the NL for a long time to come.

  24. Here’s a bitter loser, who can’t bring himself to talk about how great this Phillies team is now, and instead needs to look into the future and predict the natural cyclical up and down of a teams roster.
    Right now,the Phillies hit 40 games over .500 BEFORE September, have one of the best rotations put together in baseball history, and a lineup that just happens to have the 2nd coming of Babe F@cking Ruth, so let’s write an article talking about how it will all eventually come to an end, like all good things.
    We’ll all look back and tell our grandchildren legends about the golden era for the Phillies, while this dweeb will just be glad it’s over.

  25. Howard is declining, but not to the extent this guy is saying. Hes had 6 straight 100 RBI seasons for fucks sake. He’s always been a strikeout machine, but his ability to blast the ball outta the park year after year despite that is what he gets paid for. And his little comment about howard being an awful firstbasemen and slow is stupid. Yeah, no shit hes slow, but thats not why hes on the team. His speed is a moot point. As for his fielding, hes actually been really good the past few years, I dont know why he still has that stigma of being a bad fielder he had during his first two years.
    Overall, yes, some of the teams core players are definitley declining. But they’re still playing at an elite level, and will be for the next year or two. THe window is closing, but Ruben knows how to open it back up by getting rid of the right veterans at the right time (ibanez, Rollins) and bringing in new veterans/young players like he has year in and year out.

  26. Also…This guy, while his article did make some good points and was at the very least a good read, failed to mention two HUGE things: The bottom of our line-up and the teams post season play in general.
    The bottom of our line up consistently produces runs. Chooch is a clutch beast, Ibanez has been streaky but still provided some decent support, depending on the situation you can put Victorino in the 7 spot, they have guys like Mayberry and Brown they can put in there, and best of all, our pitchers aren’t even a sure out!
    That and our players thrive in the post season. Last years series against the giants was obviously bad, but history shows a lot of success. Lee is dominant. Hamels was World Series MVP in 08, Chooch is clutch, Utley in 2 world series has a bunch of dingers, Madson has proven it. Halladay’s no hitter…I mean come on!

  27. this guy just told us exactly what we know. he’s an obvious howard hater. i don’t care what howard’s average is; how many HR, 2B and RBI does he have?
    the writer is throwing a bunch of stuff on a wall to see what sticks. he’s obviously trying to elicit some sort of reaction by taking an extreme stance.

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