I bet he was.32 Comments
Even if you completely disregard what came back in return, the general consensus in this town was that it was Cole Hamels’ time to go. He’s in his prime, sure, but by the time the team is competitive again he’ll be on a down-swing, and right now he can bring back some good young talent to help benefit the Phillies in their rebuild. It’s hard saying goodbye, but sometimes it’s necessary.
The Dallas Morning News, recapping the deal that sends Hollywood down to Cowboy-country, grabbed the hot takes from some local writers. Most of them are on the same page. Bob Brookover said it was time for Hamels to go, Nick Kayal lamented the fact that we didn’t treat Hamels better when he was here, and David Murphy pointed out that Hamels’ value was at an all-time high. All reasonable and realistic takes on the issue. So, let’s look at Marcus Hayes’ take, which of course the Dallas Morning News quoted for its headline:
“HAMELS HAD TO GO, because Papelbon went . . . right?
One must determine the other, correct?
If the Phillies are serious about rebuilding, then they had to move Cole Hamels for surefire prospects . . . didn’t they?
Hamels is the rarest of birds; a franchise cornerstone in his absolute prime, capable of excellence and leadership and impeccable professionalism …
There was no concrete argument to be made for trading Hamels to the Rangers for some prospects.
He was under the Phillies control for the next four seasons, including a team option for 2019.”
Firstly, hey Marcus, always nice to hear from you. Second: No one in the entire world is making the argument that Hamels being traded is related in any way to the Papelbon deal. Thirdly: Yes, it’s nice that Hamels was a franchise centerpiece, but as this point his value to the franchise is in being dealt. Being the centerpiece of a 100-loss franchise doesn’t mean shit.
But Hayes continued, because no one told him to stop:
“He preferred to play the next few seasons with a team more likely than the Phillies to win a World Series, but, frankly, his finest hours came in 2007 and 2008, with Phillies teams that were unlikely to win a World Series.
He expressed no any real displeasure with his circumstance. He has been neither lax in his preparation nor distracted in his performances.”
WHAT? The only reason for dropping 2007 and 2008 here that I can possible imagine is to compare the 2015 Phillies to those teams. The 2015 Phillies are related to the 2008 Phillies in one way only: They play in the same park. The teams could not be more different when it comes to management, skill, or attitude. That argument makes no sense. And “he expressed no any real displeasure with his circumstance.” That doesn’t make any sense grammatically, and yes, he has. He hasn’t thrown a Papelbon-level hissy-fit about it, but over the past two years has said that he’d rather play for a team that he can help win. He got what he wanted, the Phillies got value in return. It’s how it all works. The next time the whole town agrees on something though, Marcus, I look forward to reading your contrarian nonsense.83 Comments
The Phillies, incredibly, offered up Pat Burrell for a Twitter chat this afternoon in advance of his Wall of Fame induction tomorrow night. I have no idea what Pat had to say, because it’s the questions that didn’t get answered which stood out. It’s best to nestle into this with a cold one: Continue reading24 Comments
They did… good?
When details of the trade started to leak out, it was being reported that the Phillies received the Rangers’ sixth-ranked prospect, catcher Jorge Alfaro (considered by some to be the best catching prospect in baseball) and Jerad Eickhoff (a middling pitching prospect who, frustratingly, doesn’t use a second R in his name) in exchange for Hamels. Early on, it was clear that top prospects and youngsters Joey Gallo and Nomar Mazara would not be coming over.
Initial reaction: disappointment.
But then, as more details leaked, the haul kept getting better and better. Fifth-ranked prospect Nick Williams (a free-swinging power outfielder whose scouting report sounds a lot like Dom Brown’s…)… and then fourth-ranked prospect Jake Thompson (who projects as a third or maybe even second starter)… others, including a salary dump in Matt Harrison that the Phillies were willing to take on. It was reported that Jake Diekman would also be going over in the deal. Fine.
Hamels has been the Phillies’ biggest trade chip for years. Ryan Howard is virtually untradable, Chase Utley doesn’t really have legs anymore, Jonathan Papelbon was an expensive closer and a huge dick, Cliff Lee had some value but is older than Hamels and is hurt now anyway. Cole is still in his prime, and fairly durable. So this was it. He was the piece the Phils had to move to really kick the rebuild into high gear. They did a nice job getting something in return.
All along it was reported that teams were bristling at the Phils’ demands for top prospects. I think that’s partly because Ruben Amaro isn’t good at his job, and partly because teams are wising up to panicky deadline deals… likely because the Phillies serve as a cautionary tale for what can happen when you go for broke year after year. So getting three of a team’s top six prospects and two others (Eickhoff and pitcher Alec Asher) is more than a decent return for Hamels.
Few players are a sure-thing, and teams aren’t trading those who are. So you play the numbers game. You take three or four really good prospects, cross your fingers, and wait to see if one or two of them become + MLB players. If they do, the trade is a huge win. In this case, if Alfaro becomes the Phillies’ catcher for the next decade and Thompson becomes a reliable starter, I’d be happy. Anything else would just be a bonus.
Verdict: good trade.60 Comments
Even when they’re good, the New York Metropolitans are ridiculous.
Last night, as news of the Cole Hamels BLOCKBUSTER leaked out, Twitter lit up with Mets head shakes as manager Terry Collins left a crying Wilmer Flores in the game. Flores thought he had been traded to the Brewers along with Zack Wheeler for Carlos Gomez. There were multiple reports all but confirming the news.
Only… the trade didn’t happen.
GM Sandy Alderson blamed social media, because no matter the circumstance, it must be Twitter’s fault. Sir Sandy:
Mets GM Sandy Alderson blames social media for Wilmer Flores crying during game. pic.twitter.com/O7ZnFrZFSf
— Jimmy Traina (@JimmyTraina) July 30, 2015
“There is no trade. And unfortunately, social media, etc. got ahead of the facts and, um, may have had an adverse effect on one of the players rumored to be involved.”
Nice. If he thought social media was cruel last night, wait until today when it skewers him for being a feckless coward.
But the Mets weren’t done messing with Flores.
During a borderline epic post-game rant (video after the jump), it sounded like Collins called Flores “a gay kid.” No, really. Listen: Continue reading14 Comments
Matt Harrison (salary dump)