Paul Holmgren Slammed It Down on the Negotiating Table, Hard

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Paul Holmgren has his negotiating meter set to obliterate right now, apparently.

TSN’s Darren Dreger, who broke news of the Shea Weber offer sheet, says the Flyers put that option (threat?) on the table yesterday as a way of incenting the Predators to trade Weber. But, the Preds wanted a substantial (and completely ridiculous) haul: Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier.

Homer no like dat.  

Dreger told 97.3 ESPN: [must-listen audio here]

“There was unbelievable dialogue yesterday between Paul Holmgren and David Poile trying to get a trade done that would appease both sides. Umpteen deadlines had passed. Holmgren had enough, and in true Philadelphia Flyer philosophy, he said, “Alright, we’re going to do things our way.” And he gave Weber a 14-year, $110 million offer sheet."

“I don’t know if the Predators can handle such an enormous financial monster.”

 

I giggled at that last line.

Dreger went on to say that he believes the Predators will match it, based on everything they’ve said so far about matching an offer, but wonders if they can really afford so much money up front, especially when there may not be hockey next year.

Homer's offer of $110 million, including $27 million in the next 12 months, is brought to you by Xfinity Live! Philadelphia. You see, in Nashville, they don’t have a cash printing plant 200 yards away from their Zamboni tunnel. Or the backing of Comcast. $110 million is one thing, but with the Flyers offering $56 million over the first four years of the deal, the Predators are between and rock and a ha Homer’s manhood, and now they will have to match the Flyers’ offer if they want to keep their captain. 

Weber's view? Daily News beat reporter Frank Seravalli reports that Weber spent time in Philly two weeks ago touring the Skate Zone and meeting with the front office (something we heard as well, but couldn't confirm at the time). Weber’s agent, Kevin Epp, said that his client signing the offer sheet had nothing to do with money. No, really. He did. 

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Epp told CSN’s Sarah Baicker that his client signed the offer sheet for “security for his family with a long-term contract.” Interestingly, Baicker is reporting that the offer sheet doesn’t include a no-trade clause, which, with Holmgren, is, um… ah, never mind.

Both the Flyers and Predators have plenty of cap room. Weber’s cap hit would be $7.85 million per season ($110 million divided by 14). As pointed about by Seravalli earlier, the Flyers are currently almost $13 million under the temporary $70.2 million cap. If Pronger goes on long-term injured reserve, they will free up another $5 million. The Predators are actually under the salary floor, so they have more than enough room to squeeze that $7.85 million under the cap.

Barry Petchesky, of Deadspin, made a good point in his post about what a great offer this was for the Flyers. Besides the obvious benefits of stretching the contract out until Weber is 40 (which lessens individual season cap hit– remember: total dollars divided by total years), the Flyers, anticipating a new CBA that limits salaries (something that could be retroactive), offered Weber $13 million in signing bonuses over each the first four years of the deal, plus another $16 million, total, in bonuses in years five and six. That means, no matter what happens with the new CBA, Weber will be guaranteed $68 million in signing bonuses. Additionally, even if a new CBA were to limit contract lengths, that change wouldn’t be retroactive. Weber will be a Flyer or Predator for a long time, and he’s guaranteed a substantial portion of that $110 million contract. And that’s why he signed the offer sheet.

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23 Comments

  • Chance- Vice President in Command of the GnA Falcons July 19, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    Home Boy did a great job front loading that contract. He deserves to treat himself to a cold beer

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  • Wilson July 19, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Wait, “there might not be hockey next year”? When the F did that happen/

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  • homer's gun July 19, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    @wilson, where the fuck have you been?

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  • Lemur July 19, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Undoubtedly simultaineously cursing the Phils and trying to convince himself they’ll get better after the All Star Break.

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  • One Fly Guy July 19, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    “You want Schenn and Couturier? Homey don’t play dat!”

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  • Shiva H. Vishnu July 19, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    So… we’re not getting him then.

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  • Jared July 19, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    For Bryzgalov’s sake, this would be fucking awesome.

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  • otro caballo July 19, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Rubes always tries to upstage the rest of the Philly teams…wouldnt be surprised to see Hamels sign today

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  • DoomHooligan July 19, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    When this type of epic offer is being dropped on a GM, and the player in question has expressed a desire to leave, the GM who already manages the player in question is playing a risky game when they go against the wishes of the player – who works/plays their best for a team they hate? Not really sure any player in this situation is simply ambivalent to where they end up when the dust settles.
    Mr. Howson, are you watching this shit unfold? Take notes, lots of notes.

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  • totes July 19, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    BARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIN

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  • totes July 19, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    BAW WIT DA BAW DA BANG DA DIGGY IGGY I DROP DA BOOOGY

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  • bleh July 19, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    That’s a lot of dough, but Nashville would still be foolish to let him go.
    That said, how awesome would it be to get Weber?

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  • Crosby is a bitch July 19, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Fuck Nashville… That is all

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  • Bill July 19, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Hamels signing today would not upstage this. This is Eric Lindros trade epic if they get him!

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  • Black people love neck tats July 19, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Mother fucking weber is all but signed you pussy flyer fans!!!!

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  • Laviolette's Lip Scar July 19, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    Schenn and Couturier? How about I just bend you over the Liberty Bell and fuck your butthole while Rhea Hughes gives me a rusty trombone…

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  • Joel Otto July 19, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    I heard homer has a big dick

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  • Hopdevil July 19, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Hey, I got quoted. Thanks Kyle

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  • Large Marge July 19, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Lol homey don’t play..bet he is in sea isle with Trent crushing miller high life and slamming coeds..just don’t let him bike home.

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  • Large Marge July 19, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    Course I meant to say Avalon

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  • AvalonA July 19, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Fuck off large marge

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  • GUS July 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    WHO IS A BIGGER BOSS- VLADIMIR PUTIN OR HOLMGREN?

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  • Jane April 30, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    Whoever wrote this, you know how to make a good areclit.

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