- January 7, 2014
Oh, the horror. In a completely ridiculous and drawn out announcement – with a 21-minute introduction! – Claude Giroux was left off the Team Canada roster.
Jeff Carter 2013-2014 stats: 15 G, 11 A, 26 P.
Claude Giroux 2013-2014 stats: 12 G, 26 A, 38 P.
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Fucking stupid. Bobby Ryan and Claude should form a new nation called Fuckustan and beat the fuck outta both Canada and USA. Fucking stupid
Giroux fucking sucks just like nick foles and riley cooper and alex henery and every other white athlete in philly
Yay finally some flyers news!!!
In a way it’s good he’s not on the team bc we won’t have to root against him in the gold medal game against the US. And we get to root harder for a team that has Crosby and Carter. Fuck Canada
Ps Mikey Miss blocked me on twitter bc I was a flyers fan. Can we get this dickhead out of this city once and for all. I get Hockey isn’t the most popular sport here. But there’s a huge fan base and this idiot whose employers broadcast the games just puts down the team the sport and it’s fans on a daily basis
there is no way USA makes it to the gold medal game.
Just like in 2010, right?
They have the goalie playing the best in the world right now (Miller). They have a prolific offense (enough so that, rightly or wrongly, Bobby Ryan was left off the team). They have a really good D, including the best defenseman in the game right now.
They’re not a lock to make it, but they’re one of the 4 teams with the best chance.
To say there is “no way” is crazy.
Who is the best defenseman in the game right now?
Dude come on, take off the American flag blinders. I’m a big team USA fan as well and there’s certainly a chance they make the gold medal game, but Ryan Miller the best goalie in the world? There’s no way he’s better than Rask, Carey Price, or even Ben Bishop right now for that matter. Yeah I get he plays on a terrible team, but someone like John Bernier is on a mediocre defensive team and he’s putting up numbers as good if not better than Miller.
I do think Miller is the best in the world right now. How many of those guys would still keep their composure and play that well in front of such an awful team?
It’s certainly debatable, but in watching what I have of Miller, I think he’s playing the best and I think he’ll show it in Sochi if given the chance (I guess they’re seriously considering Quick for the starter, but I think that’s a mistake).
Rask and Price play on teams that greatly reduce the stress of their position. Bishop is playing really well, I’ll grant you. He’d be in the conversation with Miller, as would Bernier. But Miller’s track record and performance this season, when many guys would give up or not play at such a stellar level, put him above them in my opinion. I mean, shit, dude faced 50 shots in a game and gave up 1 goal. That’s fucking impressive.
canada could create a b-team that would beat the team USA in sending to sochi
i seriously doubt he blocked you solely because you are a flyer fan
Mike miss blocked me for tweeting him “enough with the general questions segment”. Dude has issues
He said “Oh you must be a flyers fan” and blocked me……….This was after i asked himwhat the point of insulting Panotch’s tweet about congratulating Voracek for making the Czech team. Dude is a loser
Mikey Miss blocks everyone! Fuck him!
That’s all the hosts do on 97.5 is blocked their fans when they disagree with them . Mike miss is a pos
That’s because Mike Miss caters to the blacks, he’s a pussy. Same kind of guy that’s demanding AJ McCarren’s mom apologize for asking if the shine QB from Florida state was speaking English… Eat shit Mike Miss and all liberal fuck stick media hacks
Dude I think Giroux should be on there too, but Giroux played 9 more games this year (33 to 42). At least put the numbers into context.
Thanks, was gonna add that. Not saying he didn’t deserve to go but that’s a glaring omission.
This is good news – fresh legs for a playoff run!
Can’t say I’m surprised by this, the Olympic selection process is a glorified popularity contest. He’ll probably be a reserve player and wind up playing anyway when another forward withdraws or is injured. On the flip side, the risk of the Flyers losing their captain/star in an Olympic game is gone and as a Flyer fan I can’t say that’s a bad thing. Gives him a break, then fresh legs for the stretch run to the playoffs after the break.
I blame Crosby.
Seriously… gotta have Crosby’s “chemistry” with Kunitz. Makes no fucking sense. “The best in the world” shouldn’t depend on certain linemates to succeed. In fact, he seemed to do well in 2010 without his regular linemates. But nope, Kunitz has to be there!
Dafuq, Stevie Y? That’s fucking stupid.
This is a really fucking stupid decision, but on the bright side, he won’t get hurt playing in the Olympics, and hopefully it will piss him off enough to come out and tear shit up after the break.
Most of Giroux’s points come on the power play. He’s not a good even-strength player and his two-way play is lacking. Not surprised he didn’t make it.
The fuck are you talking about?
Yeah he slumped at the start of the season, but he’s been amazing lately, and 16 of his 38 points are on the power play. So, not “most”.
And Giroux is one of the best two way players in the league.
His ratio of power play points to total points is one of the highest in the league. He had the worst +/- on the team up until a few weeks ago. As of 12/11/13, he was a -10 (the WORST on the team). Just because he’s been hot “lately” he should make the team? Get a clue.
So we are supposed to discount his great play of late and focus on his bad start and plus/minus (one of the most over rated stats in hockey)? Looks like you need to get a clue
In general, +/- does matter and it correlates to success. As a forward, a low +/- means your team sucks and your line is not scoring. During their evaluation they obviously had reasons why they left him off the roster. Face it, he’s just not as good as the other centers on the team.
Can I get where you find that stat, the ratio of PP points to total points? I’ve never seen that anywhere, and I’d love to. I’m not trying to argue on that- I just want to see the list.
And +/- is a useless stat, but even if you want to use that, your numbers mean that he’s been a +12 in under a month of play. That’s fucking ridiculous. He’s one of the hottest players in the game right now, why wouldn’t you want that on a short-tournament team?
And it’s not just “lately.” Giroux has been a point per game player (or damn close) in the NHL for 4 years now. You’re taking his slow start and using to justify him as not good, I’m using 4 years of evidence, and somehow I’m the one who needs to get a clue? What works better, a 20 game sample size or a 225 game sample size?
And a lot of this is with the likes of Hartnell and Raffl on his lines. Can you imagine what he’d do on a line with Duschene and Sharp? Or Stamkos and Benn? Or any combination of Canadians?
That stat doesn’t exist anywhere…I calculated the ratio myself…PP points divided by total points…and compared it with the other top 50 scorers. I’m just saying it’s pretty difficult to make the Team Canada roster and we’ll never know what their decision was based on. Maybe they were just looking for more defensive center-men like Toews and Bergeron.
Don’t discount +/- entirely. Yes it contingent on the team you’re on and your goaltending, etc but it can also indicate the type of player you are. Look at Ovechkin; worst defensive work ethic in the league, tops in scoring, awful +/- because of it.
What would you consider “one of the highest” in the league, then? Since you went through the numbers. Because I’m going through them now, and players with a higher percentage of PP points to total points (all in top 50 in points):
Ovechkin, Malkin, Backstrom, Pavelski, Karlsson, Neal, Skinner, Subban.
So that puts Giroux at 9th. Out of 50. Or in the top 18 percent. That’s hardly “one of the highest” in the league. Especially when he’s a 42% and some of those guys are over 50%.
And yes, I know center was deep for Canada. But Giroux can play the wing, and would be a better option at it than Carter, Nash or Marleau.
+/- is akin to “wins” in baseball. There are a lot of other factors that can affect your +/-, such as your role on the team. Are you a shut down player who consistently plays against the other teams top players. If you are facing tougher competition your +/- will be affected. Do you play the penalty kill? If the other team scores right as the power play expires you are saddled with a minus. Are you on the ice with the goalie pulled to try and tie a game late? If the other team gets an empty netter you get a minus. Are you out on the ice with Luke schenn and mezaros? You are probably going to get a minus. Just stepped on the ice from a line change and the other team scores? Minus. I can keep going but the point remains…over rated stat.
@ Cartman…that seems like “one of the highest” to me. Even still, a few weeks ago he was at 57% (highest in the league).
I don’t understand how 82nd percentile is “one of the highest.” I’d say you’d need to be in the top 10%, closer to 5%. I guess we just disagree on what “one of the highest” is.
And you keep talking about what his stats were a month ago. That was A MONTH AGO. Things change. A month ago Jonathan Quick wasn’t playing. Does that mean he shouldn’t go?
We all know what Jonathan Quick brings…consistency. Do we really know what Giroux would bring?
Quick had a .905 save percentage before his injury. Shouldn’t his slow start merit him not being on the team for, say, Bishop, who’s played better this year? No? Same thing with Giroux.
I don’t know what consistency you’re looking for from Giroux. Other than the slow start to this year, he’s been about as consistent a forward as there is in the NHL the last 4 years.
Considering one of his “minuses” came when Coburn handed the puck to Taylor Hall; I’d say +/- is a highly overrated stat.
I’m cool with this. One less player risking injury as long as he stays off the links during the break.
G is lazy, that’s why he didn’t make it. The best in the world does not need a guy on the team who takes shifts off
Also, I didn’t look at the full roster but they probably needed a score first winger. They are building a team not just the best players. They already have a much better Giroux in Crosby.
The important thing is that when the game is on Jeff Carter’s stick in a wide open net, he will screw it up and then the US will score the game winner seconds later
He should have made it, but I’m glad he will get to rest and I’m sure this will light a fire under him.
Hey Kyle, how about a column on OJ Simpson finally getting what he deserves?
G is the most overrated player in NHL. I’m sure G is going to call up some male escorts for blow away the pain
My problem with Giroux is with the exit of Richards/Carter and then Pronger he has just fallen into this role of captain and “best player on the team”. So far everything has just been served to him on a silver platter. Its reflected in his work ethic – like people said he’s lazy and takes shifts off. At the end of the game he’s still the “best player on the team”. Plenty of other guys on the team (Read, Voracek, Simmonds) work their asses off for less recognition.
P.S. His best season was the same year as Hartnell’s and while they both played on a line with Jagr. It was enough for a ginormous contract and the C.
He is without a doubt the best player on the team. Imagine what this team would be doing without him. We’d be in buffalo territory. You don’t think playing with G has elevated Voraceks game? Come on man he’s clearly the best player
I’m not saying he’s not. He’s fallen into the role and he should be – I’d just like more consistency – and I feel like that hurts us. Look at other teams in the league their best players get the puck and they’re dangerous. Can’t say the same about G on a nightly basis.
HA! Yeah, like everything wasn’t handed to Richards on a silver platter. They had a friggin’ coronation for him when they named him captain.
I know we over value our Flyers from time to time, but I just don’t get the Giroux hate. The guy is the best player, by far, on a mediocre at best team. Its not his fault that the GM has addled his way through his job and put together a mess of a roster. He’s not Howe or Gretzky or Lemieux. But he is one of the best forwards in the sport, and if you watch the game, you see he is usually the best player on the ice when hes out there. Parse the stats however you’d like, the man is legit.
Giroux just isn’t that good anymore he’s a slightly above average player
I don’t think the people in Jamestown drank as much Kool-Aid as some Flyers fans do…
I want to put kool aid all over my FACE.
That’s so stupid I’m so much smarter than you and everyone on here you are all misinformed except me
Informed your a looser man get a life
Jamestown, what the pilgrims drank Kool Aid? It’s Jonestown you idiot.
Sad part is I thought it was Jonestown, looked it up to be sure, and wrote it wrong anyway 🙁
G is still my husbands favorite player though
You’re probably a fat ugly lady anyway candy that’s why your husband loves G
Hey nick that’s not nice man candy is a nice woman
Wait, wait… candy is a woman? Seriously?
Well I never met a man named candy
I want candy to sit on my FACE
I don’t care if G is on team canada or not I’d still love to blow him
Wow, you’re so gay informed chill with all the gay stuff all time
Yes I’ve heard if this Informed guy he sounds like a real asshole not to mention a real weirdo too. He probably has no life
That’s it! I’m calling for a ban of this nick pappagiorgio guy…who’s with me?
Carter is a wing. Giroux can’t beat out Crosby, toews or getzlaf and Bergeron is a face off specialist with great defensive play. Even thornton and Richards didn’t make it.
Oh please that’s rediculous don’t try to tell me they can’t put G at wing and put him on the team! They could even put him on defense if they wanted to! There’s no excuse for him not making the team other than him just being a flyer!
Yea they could’ve had him play goalie too right
Carter is a natural center. Just like Giroux.
Actually… Giroux started his career as a RW
Anyone who thinks G should be on the team should get a job (Delco trash are excused) along side jim Jackson. Are the Blacks on hibernation today?
Oh that’s right blacks don’t care about hockey
Hey candy how big are your boobs
Wrong again you fat pig.
Hey phil I’m a big fan man your my favorite guy on wip
Women be bitchin’
Fake me, shouldn’t reply to me looks kind of Gish 🙁
It’s probably that guy Informed faking you he’s so annoying
had a girl in my backseat one night, told me to kiss her where it stinks…
so i drove her to Marcus Hook.
Sun Village, Chester Pa.
One time I had a girl in my back seat named marcus and I reached down her pants and there was a big hook down there
That comment is not appropriate for this website you moron
God I suck..
wtf is going on with the comments lately?
Fuck off, you twat!
God he’s a douche…I should have swallowed
This is a whole new form of faggotry over here.
Ruining the site
“Informed” is the one messing up the comments section lately that’s what been going on
Kyle should ban this Informed douche his comments suck and he just trolls everybody trying to be funny but it’s just annoying and he’s ruining the comments section of this blog
not many things more entertaining in philly sports that butthurt homer flyer fans
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