97.5 the Fanatic’s “Bitch and Complain” line is for listeners to call up and air their grievances, sort of like how Frank Costanza celebrates “Festivus” in Seinfeld.
This morning, however, Eytan Shander and Geoff Mosher, who I guess were filling in for the Cuz, ended up bitching at each other instead as Tra Thomas mostly sat back and listened.
The argument, which I’d describe as one level below heated, but fair, centered around Terrell Owens and former New York Daily News writer Gary Myers (now with The Athletic), who said he would not have voted TO into the Hall of Fame if he knew he was going to skip the enshrinement ceremony.
It started with a caller offering the opinion that writers should not have a say in who enters the HOF, which Mosher disagreed with:
Shander: I think there needs to be more middle ground, because somebody like Gary Myers should not be able to stand up on his podium and demand that TO be kept out of the Hall of Fame because of who he was as a teammate or the perceptions of who he was.
Mosher: Gary Myers should be allowed to have an opinion, as wrong as it may be, (same) as anybody who stands up and say, ‘TO should be in the Hall of Fame!”
Shander: No, no, not for those reasons, and that’s the problem, is that the bias comes from misconception and born of, Gary Myers didn’t cover him! He didn’t cover him!
Mosher: Well, you’re not going to find a committee –
Shander: Paul Domowitch covered him. Tra Thomas covered him and played with him. So Gary Myers should keep his hook nose out of the conversation!
Mosher: Gary Myers covers the NFL. He doesn’t just cover the Giants and Jets.
Shander: That’s the problem, though, is that some national guy, you can do a national job –
Mosher: Nah, I don’t like this argument.
Shander: Why not? Gary Myers doesn’t have any insight.
Mosher: How are you – so the only people, so let’s say it’s Larry Fitzgerald – only Arizona Cardinals writers should get to decide on Larry Fitzgerald in the Hall of Fame? Because they’re the only ones who cover him?
Shander: No, the problem is that when you have this bias that is outside of the field of play opened up, then somebody who does not have first-hand experience of that player should not be able to let –
Mosher: But I’m telling you that almost everybody does not have first-hand experience with every player.
Shander: Which is why somebody’s off-the-field bias on TO is problematic, to be allowed in this. That’s why you need more middle ground. That’s why you need people who have either covered the guy – in TO’s case he played for 15 teams!
The argument goes on for another three minutes.