RADIOWRITERWARS: Jimmy Kempski Accuses CBS Philly Writer of Plagiarism, on WIP

Jimmy Kempski went on the Mike and Ike Show [editor’s note: Pretty sure Barkann worked 20 out of 24 hours yesterday] on WIP to come at Andrew Porter of CBS Philly for plagiarism claims on Tuesday. More specifically, Kempski alleges Porter copied and pasted his transcript of a Bart Scott radio appearance without credit (something he previously accused NJ.com of). Here is their Twitter back-and-forth, because we can’t find audio of their exchange on WIP [UPDATE: now have audio]:

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You can tell the second one is the CBS screen grab because it has that stupid ad link out on “car”

The WIP exchange:

[Kempski mentioned on Twitter how low his mic level was. We’ve seen this tactic from WIP before.]

Here’s the transcription– credit to my own ears and tired, tired fingers:

Jimmy Kempski: I don’t really have any interest in this nonsense but …

Andrew Porter: Neither do I.

JK: Andrews absolutely plagiarized an article I wrote. Bart Scott was on WFAN, your affiliate, in New York ..

AP: Our station.

JK: Correct. Bart Scott says a bunch of things about Chip Kelly and whatever else. That audio did not exist anywhere online. I called the station, had their producer send me the audio clip, transcribed it, posted it …

AP: That’s false.

JK: And then from there on …

AP: You think I can’t do the same though?

JK: Clowns just come out of the woodwork and they copy and paste it.

AP: What are you talking about?

JK: What Andrew doesn’t mention here? I had a grammatical error in my article. He copied and pasted the grammatical error. Do your own work, Andrew.

AP: Okay, Jimmy, number one: WFAN is an affiliate of us, so the audio is online, it was a viral audio clip and it was online.

JK: It was eventually, but not when at the time when you copied and pasted my work.

AP: Maybe you had it first but when I wrote it, it was a viral story already. I was even late to the story. I run an entire sports site so I have to get …

JK: True or false, Andrew: Did you copy and paste the content from my company’s website?

AP: No. That’s false.

JK: So you had the exact same grammatical error that I did?

AP: Maybe that’s a coincidence, but I don’t …

JK: A coincidence? Andrew, you copied and pasted the same exact grammatical error.

AP: Dude, number one: I didn’t. Number two: Even if I did, it’s a quote.

JK: Clown. Hack.

AP: Yo, it’s a quote. It’s a quote from Bart Scott.

JK: I can’t believe that you are trying to defend copy and pasting is.

AP: What’s plagiarism? Do you know what plagiarism is?

Barkann: Wait, what’s the grammatical error?

AP: A quote! It’s a Bart Scott quote. It says “this guys” instead of “this guy,” there’s an extra ‘s’ on “this guy.”

JK: It said “this guys” … So Andrew made that exact same mistake as me? That’s what you’re saying happened, Andrew?

AP: I got send his quote from someone in here [<em>Ed. note: Porter previously said in the tweets above that he transcribed it himself.</em>] an intern.

JK: Okay, so somebody else plagiarized my work and you slapped it up on the internet.

AP: I don’t know, but it’s a quote from Bart Scott. So I’m putting it in quotes. I don’t care who transcribed it. It’s a quote. That’s not plagiarism dude, it’s a quote.

JK: It absolutely is.

AP: Are you an idiot? You’re a moron. You’re an absolute moron … When Chip Kelly speaks …

JK: Do your own work, clown.

AP: Can I ask you a question? When Chip Kelly speaks, and he has quotes, and the Eagles blasted his quotes across the entire media outlet – I get them, you get them, Mike gets them, everybody gets Chip Kelly’s quotes – can I copy and paste Chip’s quotes into a story, using quotes? Is that legal?

JK: If you get the quotes somewhere else online, and you’re basically copy and pasting it …

AP: THEY’RE QUOTES!

JK: You absolutely have an attribution to where you got it from.

AP: You sound like a complete baby.

I am no expert in journalistic ethics – I work for a man who once eavesdropped on Ruben Amaro for two-straight hours – but in situations like this, if you’re copying and pasting a transcription – which is what Kempski claims, since they both had the same uncommon typo – it’s polite to credit the person who did the transcribing. It’s arduous work that no one really likes (ahem), so a little hat tip is, at the very least, common. Again, if you transcribe something yourself, that’s not necessary. But Kempski is alleging Porter didn’t, and I’m not sure I know a writer who would pass up copying and crediting to instead listen and transcribe the audio themselves. There’s really no point, if you reasonably trust the transcription skills of the person who did the work first. Again, a credit there is necessary. And if you have the same typo in the same spot, it screams copy/paste. Beat writers share transcribing duties all the time, too.

Kempski and some others (Ryan Lawrence included) have levied plagiarism claims against NJ.com on Twitter in the past, and those often (but not always) also dealt with copied transcripts. In fact – and I’m not saying Kempski did this – dropping a typo in a transcript or post on purpose if you suspect plagiarism (or laziness) is a good way to sniff it out. A simple, harmless, oddly-placed typo or grammatical error will do.

In the click-based economy of web writing – where links going back to your piece, depending on where you work, can be huge – it benefits a writer to be the source of a story, so they can be linked back from anywhere that picks it up. For example, we wrote about the Sixers/Wells Fargo spat a little over a week ago. A couple of days later, someone else noticed it, and for whatever reason, it took off then rather than when our piece went up. I don’t think we were copied, but all of a sudden the story was on SI, ESPN, Yahoo Sports, and everywhere else. If a site is smaller or a writer has a click-based incentive built into their pay, that’s huge if they miss out on the original credit.

 

Kyle: Jim doesn’t have a click-based incentive built into his pay, but it seems he’s campaigning for one. Fine by me– blog commission. But as someone who has worn out a path between the ⌘ and C and ⌘ and V keys on his keyboard (fun fact: I actually had to copy that little symbol to do that, so we’re getting real meta here), I feel uniquely qualified to weigh-in on this almost entirely useless spat. What we typically do, for transcriptions of quotes, is either mention the site that transcribed or obtained them, or link to the site in the preceding paragraph, and then block quote it or otherwise call it out. In CB speak, this makes it apparent that this is something from somewhere else. When you’re using something that is another writer’s own words and not just his or her transcription of a quote, then it makes sense to mention specifically the outlet or writer you’re quoting. I don’t have a dog in this fight – I’m cordial with both Kempski and Porter – and I don’t blame either side here. If I’m Porter, I would’ve copied the transcription (and at least linked to it), and if I’m Kempski, I’d be pissed that it wasn’t linked to or credited. This shit happens all the time, though. Another example: That video of Bradley Cooper and Jeffrey Lurie singing Fly Eagles Fly was sent to my wife by her good friend the other night. I tweeted it from our separate video and GIFs Twitter account, which has only like 100 followers, just so I could embed it on the site. The Tweet, unless you’re one of the 100 or so people who follow that account, had to be seen on this site. By the end of day yesterday, the video was on TMZ, NJ.com, Barstool, Terez Owens, and probably elsewhere– not one of those sites mentioned CB. They just embedded the original Tweet (which they almost certainly spotted here), and in TMZ’s case, ripped the whole video, cropped it, put it in their own player, and credited Twitter as a whole:

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For what it’s worth, our friend’s mother-in-law, who took the video, is tickled that it went viral. Me? I’m a little pissed that no one bothered to mention where it came from. Because I do work on page views.

UPDATE: After this post – without me asking – TMZ actually updated that:

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27 Comments

  • pickkles October 21, 2015 at 10:33 am

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz not radio wars,

    Reply
  • The only purpose of this article was to mention Barkass October 21, 2015 at 10:35 am

    The best thing for Philadelphia would be if he left and went back to his job at the U S A network. It would certainly be a day I would rejoice.

    Reply
  • jay grace October 21, 2015 at 10:35 am

    I liie this Kempski guy. he’s a trouble maker

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    • jay grace October 21, 2015 at 10:36 am

      I like this jimbo Kempski guy. he’s a solid trouble maker

      Reply
  • Godfather locks October 21, 2015 at 10:43 am

    What’s up homeboys?!?

    @Godfatherlocks: 10* ARKANSAS STATE cashed in! 5-2 last 7 football 10* plays… +49* units last 7 days!

    Reply
    • Chismbop October 21, 2015 at 10:46 am

      Liars. Hand them your money at your peril.

      Reply
  • Slappy October 21, 2015 at 10:58 am

    That bee buzzing around my car as I entered it this morning is more interesting than this.

    Can Innes and Missanelli start jawing again and eventually fight each other? Loser’s station is toast.

    Reply
  • William Rhodes October 21, 2015 at 11:02 am

    I think that it may be time for a definitive “Car Dealer Wars” post here on the site. I’ve been hearing so much about Colonial Nissan’s contraversial sales tactics like nailing the customer’s wife but they must be working because they are the #1 volume dealer.

    Reply
  • Kyle's Ugly Thumbs October 21, 2015 at 11:17 am

    Anyone hear mouthbreather Gargano stutter like a dumbass fan boi interviewing “Big Ja” and coach Brown? Goddamn what a fool.

    Reply
    • So over Gargano October 21, 2015 at 3:11 pm

      The day I stopped listening to Gargagme was when he interviewed Gus Johnson when it was announced that Fox would use Johnson as the #1 college football play-by-play announcer. The Antman gushed and cooed like a teenaged schoolgirl at a Joe Jonas concert. I still don’t know who Gus Johnson is., nor do I care. Antman’s behavior during that interview was embarrassing.

      Reply
  • What Planet Am I on? October 21, 2015 at 11:23 am

    So the guy who spends more time drawing stick figures and trying to make people laugh on Twitter by trolling and bashing the players who essentially pay his salary is pissed because he did 30 mins of actual work to transcribe some shit Bart Scott said? Porter actually attempts to write things that are worth reading. Does every city have sports media who are so desperate for a pat on the head or are we just that lucky to be cursed with these idiots?

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    • Kyle's camel toe October 21, 2015 at 12:18 pm

      Sadly the Philly market is the worst. Bunch of butthurt crybabies stepping on each other for any relevance. You can thank Eskin for starting that trend in the late 80s, and Ray Diddy for acting like his sports-prescience is better than my dog’s. They are the gold standard of Philly hack.

      Although that said, bitching over transcribing an athlete’s comments is pretty bottom-feeder even for Philly.

      Reply
  • Joe younis is Syrian October 21, 2015 at 11:33 am

    I heard Colonial Nissan of Feasterville is going out of business

    Reply
  • Paul Jolovitz Fan Club President October 21, 2015 at 11:34 am

    Hey guys, I’m back. Got a lot of thoughts

    1. Jim sucks.

    Reply
    • Jimmy Thorpe October 21, 2015 at 11:59 am

      2. Jim sucks

      Porter and Kempski are both acting like a bunch of skirts. Get over it.

      Reply
  • FromPenn2Broad.com October 21, 2015 at 11:51 am

    This is not radio wars… try again.

    Reply
  • blue89 October 21, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    I’m going to start calling people friggin hack jackasses now.

    Reply
  • this guys October 21, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    Thread is useless without stick figures.

    Reply
  • Bacon October 21, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    I could go for a general knowledge post

    Reply
  • Iron balls mcginty October 21, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    Jimmy kemp seems like a good guy to be sitting next to on a bar stool. He’ll be breaking balls the whole time

    Reply
  • John Bolaris October 21, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    I completely agree with the plagiarism argument. In the modern web-instant “who can break any story first” industry; I feel some of the “old school” edicate and procedures of “journalism” should still be followed. A simple link, or the TMZ example are small nuggets in a HUGE buffet. But yes, Virginia, there IS a Santa Clause. And journalists should STILL check their sources, proof read for errors, NOT plagiarize and yes, still site their sources. (Clown!!)

    Reply
  • jaws October 21, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    FRED FLINSTONE! FRED FLINSTONE! Where am i?

    Reply
    • jaws October 21, 2015 at 8:11 pm

      *FLINTSTONE

      Reply
  • MCW, I plagiarized the Weekly Reader October 21, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    My teacher still gave me a gold star.

    Reply
  • Amanda Hugginkiss October 22, 2015 at 11:53 am

    Anyone find it odd that a guy writing for Philly Voice, which pretty much only plagiarizes real news sites is bashing someone for plagiarizing?

    Reply
  • The Guv's Unkempt Eyebrows October 22, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    To hell with these radio wars, some one get me a machete.

    Reply
  • Quintavious Goldberg October 22, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    Is Porter a OO-Jay or the only ethnic group you can’t mention by name here? It’s not like those people are known for their ethical behavior.

    Reply
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