Netflix and Verizon are Pissing on Each Other

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Much of the discussion about cable company fuckery has (rightfully) centered on Comcast, but they’re hardly the only culprits here. Verizon is one of net neutrality’s staunchest opponents (they actually claim it’s their free speech right under the First Amendment to slow or block content of their choosing) and, unlike Comcast, they’re not bound by a previous agreement to wait until 2018 (ostensibly) to start fucking with your favorite streaming services.

So, Netflix – which, in April, struck a deal with Verizon similar to the deal they struck with Comcast in March – has started calling Verizon out on their slow broadband speeds.

As you might imagine, Verizon doesn’t appreciate the public shaming… and they’re threatening legal action. On what grounds, exactly, is unclear. From ReadWrite:

Verizon issued Netflix a cease and desist order Thursday over an error notice the latter has been posting since mid-May to some subscribers, explaining the slow delivery of online videos.

Threatening legal action, Verizon also demanded that Netflix provide a list of customers who have seen that notice, as they would be Verizon subscribers as well. Netflix’s gee-whiz response, as reported by CNBC, was priceless: “This is about consumers not getting what they paid for from their broadband provider,” Netflix spokesman Jonathan Friedland said. “We are trying to provide more transparency, just like we do with the ISP Speed Index, and Verizon is trying to shut down that discussion.”

The irony of a company that claims it is their First Amendment right to slow broadband speeds threatening a lawsuit against a company actually using its First Amendment right to explain to its customers why their broadband speeds are slow is positively delicious. It’s some real Inception-level bullshit.

Here’s a recent chart from the Washington Post which shows Netflix streaming speeds (according to Netflix) since January 2013:

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As you might imagine, something happened this January. On the 14th, the DC Circuit Court “determined in the case of Verizon v. Federal Communications Commission that the FCC has no authority to enforce Network Neutrality rules.” In other words: starting that day, broadband providers could legally screw with streaming speeds. Which is exactly what they did. [Hilariously, Comcast claimed that they couldn’t, didn’t or wouldn’t, and yet it wasn’t until they reached a deal with Netflix, in late February, that Netflix’s stream miraculously(!) picked up speed.]

Anecdotally: I’ve had FIOS for two years at the 35/35 download/upload speed, which is plenty fast for everyday web surfing, running Philadelphia’s most popular sports blog and watching Netflix. And indeed, until around Christmas, I hardly ever noticed lag in Netflix streaming. I watched the first season of House of Cards on both my iPad and Apple TV without issue, I streamed the entire series of Breaking Bad over the course of about six weeks last fall on my Apple TV without so much as a hiccup, and I’ve watched countless documentaries on every device in the house without any buffering– all in HD, without exception. But since around February, that’s all changed. All of a sudden, the same Apple TV buffers, however briefly, before starting a program. Netflix on my iPad Air, watched in bed, about 12 feet from the router, often requires a restart to get HD video without absurd buffering. It’s a direct result of net neutrality rules being thrown out the window. This is no longer some abstract concept– it’s actually impacting how you watching streaming content. And that’s just the start.

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23 Comments

  • Aaron Nola June 6, 2014 at 11:32 am

    What’s a guy got to do to get a post about him around here, fuck a traffic slut?

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  • the loser phillies fan above who comments on ever post looking for phillies info June 6, 2014 at 11:37 am

    hahahahahahaha question when you go to the season ticketholder events and wait in 3 hr lines to say hi to Utley or Howard who laugh in your face and they do… do you worship their autograph in your basement?

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  • Kindly Fuck Off With This June 6, 2014 at 11:39 am

    If I choose to read about this subject, it will most likely be a piece written by someone whose credentials don’t include posting screenshots from Princess Sass’ iPhone and hoarding pictures of Terrell Owens’ genitals.

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  • srl19 June 6, 2014 at 11:44 am

    lolz sports blog

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  • Ruben Sucks Dick June 6, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Philadelphia and the Philadelphia area needs Google Fiber

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    • Phineas Gage June 6, 2014 at 12:26 pm

      You have a better chance of getting a refund from a hooker than ever seeing Google Fiber in Philadelphia as long as Comcast is here.

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      • Ruben Sucks Dick June 6, 2014 at 1:23 pm

        I know….and that makes me sad

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  • TT Boy June 6, 2014 at 11:52 am

    i wonder if k..c watches the orange is the new black

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  • Chris June 6, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Thankfully, Provo Utah has Google Fiber but Philly or really anywhere north of the Mason-Dixon line doesn’t. If they tried to come here, City Council with their campaign bank accounts full of Comcast money would get a good laugh out of that while exercising their first amendment rights to slow the speed of Google’s incursion into Comcast Country down to an infinite buffer until Google gives up and scraps it.

    “Free market capitalism” <3

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    • Cartman June 6, 2014 at 12:04 pm

      As much as I laugh at Libertarians and their idealist ideology that would not work in reality, your scenario is far from free market capitalism. It’s monopoly, plain and simple. Approved by the municipalities for understandable reasons at the time, it’s now biting us in the ass.

      It’s crony capitalism, far from free market capitalism.

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      • that guy June 6, 2014 at 12:17 pm

        Not to get all political on a sports blog, but how could libertarian capitalism never work? Think if you keep things lightly regulated, and prevent a lot of additional laws to be put into place, with the free flow of information available on the internet libertarian capitalism could work. The only way it works properly is with an informed citizenship. You would know what company’s have shady practices, are good corporate citizens, or are just average small businesses.

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        • Cartman June 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm

          Because the population being properly informed a unicorn. It’ll never happen. Even if, somehow, you got all the info collected into one or just a few places, half the population (or more) wouldn’t care. They still wouldn’t educate themselves. So there’s failing number 1.

          Also, who is going to collect all that info? You know companies already work tirelessly astroturfing online to keep their name clean. Would you be willing to pay a premium subscription every month to incentivize top journalists to always keep the companies truthful? And how would that stack up against the PR monsters the companies would build even bigger than they are today? It’s a good thought in theory, but in practice I don’t see how it could possibly be successful. Failing number 2.

          Most times when someone defends an owner of a company against something they did (Chick-Fil-A, Mozilla, Paula fucking Deen), the left-leaners are the ones to be outraged. The right-leaners, which include many Libertarians, are the first to say “it’s none of your business how that person feels! Why would you stop shopping there and kill jobs because of something the owner did?!”… so even though they say the market will take care of itself due to reputation, they also don’t want decisions made based on reputation. Failing number 3.

          There’s more, but those are the big ones, to me. Straight up Libertarian completely free market is just as much a pipe dream as straight up communism, facism, any hard line ideology. The only systems that have ever been lastingly successful are a mix, socialism here, capitalism there, etc.

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          • Chris June 6, 2014 at 2:40 pm

            I feel somewhat responsible for this string of comments happening. For that, I apologize.

            With that said, the lack of an informed citizenship is problem number 1. Problem number 2 is that libertarian capitalism is a complete fantasy, no different than little girls dreaming of growing up to be a Disney princess.

  • Mike June 6, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Just post the Last Week Tonight w/ John Oliver segment dude.

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    • KAClE June 6, 2014 at 5:55 pm

      He already did on Monday.

      Reply
  • Catch a damned pass June 6, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    You fucks, the reason Kyle posts this shit is so you are aware of your getting fucked, because most of you are too busy drooling on your own cocks for lube so you can whack it to Mr. Ed.

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    • Jimmy Russell June 6, 2014 at 1:25 pm

      Too bad none of you dipshits constantly spouting off about net neutrality have any fucking clue what you’re talking about. Every company has a right to manage it’s property the way it sees fit, regardless of how you FEEL. They aren’t making you pay for their services, so you can’t make them do shit. You want to impact big cable? Stop giving them money. Classifying ISPs as common carriers will make sure you’ll never see an actual market (competition) for internet service because it’ll cost a fortune to pay for all the municipal fees and you’ll never get a permit from the city to build infrastructure.

      TLDR; Net neutrality is a bunch of liberals whining, as they usually do, about not being given something for free. If you don’t like what Verizon or Comcast is doing, stop giving them money. You have no “right” to force a private business to do ANYTHING.

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      • Cartman June 6, 2014 at 1:37 pm

        Oh we don’t? Funny, because UPS cannot legally charge me more to deliver my thesis on how UPS is evil than they charge you to send your thesis on liberal retardation. If it’s the same weight, same dimensions, and going from the same addresss to the same destination, they legally CANNOT CHARGE ME MORE THAN THEY CHARGE YOU. It’s ILLEGAL. This is extremely analogous because the ISPs want the ability to do exactly that with internet content. They need to be common carriers to make that illegal.

        Also, “don’t give Comcast or Verizon your money.” That’s great. So your choices are A) pay Comcast, let them fuck you or B) go without internet. In many places, Comcast has a government-mandated monopoly (which made sense at the time, but fucks us when it comes to something like this). So no, you don’t have a choice. If you need the internet (like many people do now- it’s not a luxury, it’s a necessity for school and/or work), you don’t have the choice to stop giving Comcast your money.

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        • Jimmy Russell June 6, 2014 at 3:00 pm

          If UPS wanted to do that, it should be in their right to do so. They wouldn’t, though, because they know if they charged people different rates based on the “ideology”(lol?) of their packages, people would just stop using them, and move to a different shipping co.

          Comcast being given a monopoly was a terrible thing. Yea, infrastructure got built quickly, but look where we are. The government getting involved in ISP’s was a complete mistake, and now you people want to give the government even more control over ISP’s? wut

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      • Dan from Tinicum June 6, 2014 at 2:05 pm

        This is by far the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on this site, and quite possibly the internet. Why don’t you take that dick out of your mouth you ignorant mental midget. The fact that you don’t understand this proves that what you say holds no value and you should be castrated so that you cannot further pollute the population with what will no doubt be your welfare’d offspring.

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        • Jimmy Russell June 6, 2014 at 3:09 pm

          not surprised some collectivist knuckle dragger can’t actually form a single argument. mommy tell you she’s not paying for the Comcast fast lane? how you gonna play COD all day bro?

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          • Dan from Tinicum June 6, 2014 at 4:03 pm

            Presumptuous, aren’t we? Making “mommy” jokes clearly means you’re still in high school or college getting turned out by all the guys that hate you.

            Run along now, men have real discussions to be had. Your dad clearly isn’t in the picture when you talk that way to people. Grow up, Peter Pan. Plenty of people grow up without dads, don’t know why you have to be such a little bitch about it.

  • mac June 6, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    Kyle – Do you get anything close to your advertised upload speed with Verizon ?

    I was never even in the ballpark with Verizon and Comcast isn’t much better.

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